Every time you perpetuate a flame war, you make baby Zagreus cry
Ah yes, it's that time of the month again. No, I'm not
talking about some lunar phenomena or a woman's menstrual
cycle, but something that happens with almost the same
regularity. Yup, there's been another flame-war in the
Hellenic community. *yawn* I know, hardly anything
extraordinary, and probably not even worth commenting on. In
fact, if you missed this one you can probably just wait a
couple more weeks and there'll be a whole new one for you to
participate in. Although the subjects that set us off change
periodically (though not with enough randomness to keep
things interesting) they all pretty much follow the same
pattern. Person A makes an unfounded or generalized comment.
Person B calls them on it, demanding they clarify or provide
apropriate sources. Person A gets defensive and attacks
Person B. Persons C, D, and E jump in, attacking Person A
for attacking B and not providing the proper sources;
Persons F, G, and H rush to A's defense; I and J make
sarcastic comments at everyone's expense; K pleads for
sanity and an end to the constant bickering, and then all
hell breaks loose until either the Moderators have to step
in or someone leaves the list in a huff, crying alligator
tears and saying they're never coming back and going to
practice as a solitary for the rest of their life. (Which
usually lasts about two to three weeks until they come
slinking back because they're bored or masochistic.)
Somewhere along the line someone will have called somebody
else a Wiccan. Another person will try to invalidate the
traditionalist stance by pointing to slaves, pederasty, and
the role of women in antiquity. Whoever invokes Hitler or
the Nazis first automatically loses. Old hat. We've all been
there, done that before. Plenty of us have the battle-scars
to show for it, too. In fact, it's kind of a rite of
passage. If you can stand your ground, take it as good as
you give, and actually make the occasional intelligent
comment instead of being driven off with your tail between
your legs, you will have gained respect points from the old
guard. Last long enough - about two years - and you will
have become part of the old guard.
That's life in the Hellenic polytheist community. We're a
hard-headed, stubborn, passionately bellicose lot. There are
a number of reasons why we're like this. Partly it has to do
with who our cultural ancestors are. The Greeks loved to
argue. In fact, they made an art-form out of it and wrote
plenty of legal speeches never intended to be delivered in
court. They just liked the flow of words, the formation of
arguments, getting the blood boiling with righteous
indignation. They'd argue in the agora or marketplace;
they'd argue at the assembly; they'd argue at festivals;
they'd argue over wine at dinner-parties. In fact, husbands
probably argued with their wives while they were making
love. And the Greeks would literally argue about anything
and everything. In fact, one argument at the library of
Alexandria became so heated that it broke out into
fisticuffs in the street by the opposing parties. Do you
know what caused this rumble among the scholars? A debate as
to whether the Achaeans at Troy used a razor to shave their
faces based on an obscure verb in Homer. I kid you not.
Another reason why we argue today is because, let's face
it, we're all a bunch of nerds. Most of us are college
educated or reading books that are intended for
college-level courses. And whereas college kids are forced
to read those excruciatingly dry texts, we do it for
pleasure. (Recently a lot of us got together at Pantheacon,
and one of the rare treats was when we all unpacked our
libraries - yes, we traveled with our own libraries - and
oohed and ahhed over each other's rare texts.) We love to
quote those books, too, chapter and verse, and then discuss
them down to their tiniest details. We keep our fingers on
the pulse of academia, and as soon as a theory has fallen
out of favor with the Ivy Leaguers, we lambast anyone who is
out of date and has the temerity to quote the discredited
information - even if it was the norm just a few short years
ago. Additionally, plenty of us are in the computer
industry, or spend an inordinate amount of time online.
(After all, considering the widespread geographical
distribution of our community, the 'net is pretty much the
only place we're likely to meet a co-religionist.) A lot of
us are into science-fiction and fantasy, RPGs, fandoms,
alternative sexualities, and assorted other geekly
activities. Considering how contentious all of those groups
are, and that many of us belong to several simultaneously -
it's a wonder we're ever civil to each other. As nerds we
are very committed to clear-thinking, articulate
communication, factual accuracy, and proper terminology.
Unless, of course, these things get in the way of us making
a point.
Additionally, this is a religion for us. It involves
deeply cherished beliefs, things that touch the remotest
parts of our souls, that encompass how we view the world
around us, how we should relate to our fellow men, the very
nature of divinity itself. We are passionate in our
convictions - and so are the people who hold convictions
opposed to ours. Looking back at the history of man, nothing
has caused more wars, oppression, and general suffering than
religion and philosophy. Frankly, we should be pleased with
ourselves that the worst thing that any of us has ever done
to each other was call someone an uncharitable name when we
could be lynching people and setting fire to their books.
(There's a greater probability that we'd lynch someone than
actually burn a book, however.) Unlike many religions, ours
is a highly diverse and individualistic faith. From the time
that the first Greek-speaking peoples entered Hellas to the
closing of the last temples by Theodosius and the
philosophical schools by Justinian, you've got almost two
thousand six hundred years of history. Each polis or
city-state had its own laws, traditions, religious
practices, and even dialects of Greek. That is a huge amount
of material to consider, and each of us focuses on different
areas, different time periods, different gods and customs
when forming our own personal practice and views. That is
bound to cause at least some conflict when discussing these
very important issues.
And, lastly, another contributing factor to our frequent
'net battles is the fact that we are communicating with each
other through the printed word. It's very easy to read the
wrong emotion into text. Most of the communication that we
do is actually non-verbal. Tone, expression, gesture,
stance, etc. can radically alter how our message is
conveyed. Something said with a wry grin and a chuckle would
likely not offend as much as the same sentence coming across
e-mail. We often forget about that in the heat of the
moment, when a dozen e-mails are coming across our inbox in
the span of five minutes, and everything is immediate,
intense, and seems far more important than it normally
would. Often, I suspect people do not read e-mails in their
entirety, but scan them to find the passage most liable to
offend.
So, considering all of this, it's easy to see why these
sorts of flame-wars keep frequently popping up. Some of us
simply take them in stride, seeing them as inevitable and
hoping that each new manifestation will subside quickly so
that we can get back to the important business at hand:
fellowship, worship, and the building of a real community,
both on and off the internet. Some even think it's a good
thing, showing our diversity, and allowing us to refine and
come to a better understanding of our beliefs through
exchanges and conflict. Others decry the situation, saying
that no real community can be built amidst such a situation,
that it's all just ego-driven dick-waving and that a
religion is not a pissing contest. When the people making
this point are sincere and refrain from fanning the flames,
I applaud their efforts at peace-keeping. Unfortunately, all
too often the people who are so vociferously condemning the
uncivil tone of discourse and waving the white flag are the
same people who either started the flame-war in the first
place, or fed it throughout. As soon as they see that their
side is losing they'll jump onto the pacifist train and
condemn the other side as trouble-makers, malcontents, and
enemies of peace, harmony, and understanding.
So, what's the solution? Someone doesn't write this long
about a topic such as this unless they've got something to
contribute.
It's simple, really. If you want to stop the flame-wars,
take a good, hard look in the mirror. A flame-war begins and
ends with you, my friend. Yes, I know. Personal
responsibility is never a pleasant pill to swallow, and it's
so much easier to blame everyone else. After all, you're
just responding to something they said, right? They set the
tone, you're just following their lead. Well, that's the
thing. Everyone thinks they're in the right. No one wants to
admit that they're the one causing all the trouble. To their
mind, they're just expressing their views - and you're the
one twisting their words, antogonizing them, and generally
being an asshole. And when you follow along, returning force
for force, things have a way of escalating. It's like how
Herodotos describes the origin of the enmity between the
Greeks and Persians. Some Phoenician sailors came to Greece
to hawk their wares. They spotted some pretty Greek
princesses, and once all their goods had sold, they fled off
with the girls in tow. The Greeks eventually gave chase,
abducted the Phoenician king's daughters, and before you
know it you've got the Trojan War and the Persian Wars and a
whole hell of a lot of dead Greeks and barbarians.
Retribution and retaliation always spiral out of control,
because each side only sees itself as aggrieved and never
the aggriever. Also, it's pretty damn childish. That's the
behavior you'd expect out of a two year old - not an adult.
It is only when one can begin to temper themselves, to use
self-control and restraint - sophrosune in the Greek
- to keep their anger in check, reply with civility,
respect, and gentleness, that one shows the true maturity of
an adult and a human. Yes, I admit, being an adult is not
very much fun. It's so much easier to let yourself get swept
up in the moment, to give in to your baser, violent, animal
instincts, to tear out the throat of the person you think
has done you wrong, to show your strength and intelligence
for all to see. But think about it. Which takes more
strength, keeping yourself in check or smiting an enemy?
Which shows more intelligence - making a witty, insulting
comment, or finding a way to communicate your point in a
manner that doesn't offend? In the end, you may be
completely in the right, but if you act like a total
asshole, no one is going to listen to you. They're just
going to dismiss you and everything you say. So, if you
truly want to overcome your enemy, overcome yourself first.
Let them look like the raging fool, the out of control
animal, the belligerent, ignorant creep. You do not have to
lower yourself to their level. Never lose sight of who you
are and aspire to be. The second you do that, they've
already won, no matter how off-base their points are.
Of course, I'm not saying that it's easy, by any means.
Hell, if it was easy we'd all be doing it. And anyone who
knows me knows that I sure as hell haven't lived up to this
standard plenty of times myself. But the thing is, it's
something you can keep working on, every day, in every
exchange, a continually unfolding process. And you're going
to slip, you're going to lose your temper - we all do, we're
human - but the key is, don't stop trying. If this is
something that's important to you, it's worth working at.
And here are some guidelines that might help.
* When you feel yourself losing control, step away from
the computer. Calm down and come back to it later. Nothing,
absolutely nothing, has to be sent off just this second.
Give yourself time and space to really think about what
you're going to say. Is it absolutely necessary? Are there
any other ways to express it? Are you just repeating
yourself? What effect is this going to have on the
conversation? Is it just going to keep things going and piss
off the other person - or does it represent an actual
breakthrough, a new idea or way of looking at something?
Write out everything that's in your head, no matter how
angry and insulting it is. Then delete it, and start all
over again.
* Learn to communicate clearly. Electronic communication
is fraught with peril. As already said, it's hard to read
intent in such a cerebral form of expression. Also,
understand that there is often a difference between what's
in your head and what comes out. In our head there are all
of these companion concepts, associations, words, history,
etc. We think completely, but communicate only partially.
Since very few people are mind-readers, don't presume
anything and take extra care in how you communicate your
ideas. And, let's face it, not everyone is on the same
experential or intellectual level. Some people can become
very sensitive about this fact and react badly when they
think you are intentionally talking over their head.
Complicating this is the fact that not everyone you will
communicate with has English as their first or primary
language. Because they understand words and concepts
differently, this can open the doors to all sorts of
unpleasant misunderstandings. Try to make your points as
clearly and concisely as possible. If people seem to be
misunderstanding you, offer to restate your views in a
better manner.
* Whenever possible, provide sources for what you are
claiming, especially when it's regarding a controversial
subject. When asked for sources, don't get offended. That
doesn't mean that people are trying to show you up or that
they even doubt what you're saying. They may simply be
curious and want to see how you came to your understanding,
or to learn about something they previously didn't know. If
there is no basis for your view beyond your own personal
opinion or experience, clearly state that. That is a
perfectly fine source in and of itself, and will often avert
a lot of heated discussion.
* Learn how to disagree with people without making it
personal. Don't take pot-shots or bring up unrelated issues.
Keep private matters out of public discource. Separate the
idea and action from the indivdual themselves. No matter
what this person believes, they are still a person just like
you, and thus worthy of decency and respect. It's okay if
you don't see eye to eye. Very few issues are so important
that you should stop being friends with the person simply
because you disagree with them. Alternately, no matter what
an asshole this person may be, eventually they're going to
have something good to say. Don't dismiss their ideas out of
hand, simply because you don't like them. Make sure that
what you are disagreeing with is the idea itself, and not
the person expressing it.
* Don't take things so damn seriously! In the middle of
an argument it can seem like everything's on the line, like
it's a life or death issue. It's not. Believe me, very few
things in life are worth getting that upset over. Someone
disagrees with you, someone makes a snotty comment, someone
even says something not so nice to you - so what? Does their
having said so make it true? Grow a thick skin and learn to
let stuff roll off your back like water off a tortoise
shell. I'm not saying that you should be a doormat and never
stick up for yourself - just choose your battles wisely, and
understand that not everything is as intense as you're
feeling it right this second. Find a way to laugh at things.
If you can find the humor in a situation, you'll be much
better off. Plenty of volatile situations have been defused
with laughter.
* Don't be a drama-whore. If your disagreement with an
individual or a group is so great that you no longer feel
that you can associate with them, simply leave. Don't make
long-winded and accusatory good-bye speeches. Try to move on
without having to attack the individuals in question, to
recriminate or "blow the lid off their shit", or to demand
that everyone you know choose your side over theirs. This
only perpetuates the unpleasantness and puts everyone in a
difficult position. Trust that things will work out in the
end, and that you don't have to right every wrong. People
are smart. They notice patterns. They can figure things out
without us having to tell them or rub their faces in it. Of
course, if it is a serious situation which might potentially
harm others, you do have an obligation to speak up. But know
clearly that you are addressing a serious problem and not
just spreading rumours and making hateful comments about
someone you don't like. And don't go running to Livejournal
and make a million posts, both private and public, in order
to keep the cycle of conflict going. Because inevitably, the
other side will do it, too, and then you will have to
respond to what they respond to, and then they'll respond,
and really, it just keeps going on and on and on, long after
the initial confrontation has blown over, bringing in
individuals who had no part in the initial fray. And, if
things do get resolved you'll be sitting there with egg all
over your face, having to explain the nasty things you said
and how you no longer believe them. Much better to let
things blow over, make sure the bridges have really been
burnt before saying anything. And don't talk about people
behind their back. Gossip and spreading nasty rumours about
people may be cathartic in the moment - but just consider
that the same thing might be being done about you behind
your back. And really, we're a small community. Can you be
sure that the person you're talking to won't talk to someone
else, and that that person in turn won't talk to the
indvidual you're talking about? When it gets back to them,
it opens up a whole new can of worms.
I could go on, but hopefully you get my point. Really, it
all comes down to the words of the Roman slave and
philosopher Epictetus, "What you would avoid suffering
yourself, seek not to impose on others." Sounds like pretty
good advice to me. If you want the madness to stop (and
there's no reason to assume that everyone does) it must stop
with you. Take the initiative - or in the parlance of the
self-help movement, be proactive and be the first one to do
what's right. Not only will you be looked up to as an elder
and leader in our community, a person of wisdom and
self-control - but you will know, at the very least, that
you are not contributing to an evil, even if others are.
© 2006 H. Jeremiah Lewis